PieFed DKICE ordering fleet of 20 armoured vehicles from Canadian firm
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Eh … now you don’t know what to think huh? 🤔🤪😆
Okay Canadian assembly techs: you have an opportunity to do something extremely funny
Fuck ICE
What, Elon’s cyber trucks weren’t good enough for them?
Cybertruk bulletproof stainless steel was proving to have intermittent swiss cheese events. The unpredictability knocked them down on the procurement scores.
ICE going to pay tarrifs for steel and alum, then tarrif again for vehicles.
Except it’s not ICE, it’s taxpayers. And because enough of them are raging racist assholes he now live in a racist state .
Fuck fascists
Don’t worry, they’re going to make Mexico pay for it all.
Tired: make mexico pay fir it
Wired: make the citizens pay for it through tariffs
Dear Canada,
Please don’t.
Sincerely,
-Every American
Dear Canada,
Add an exhaust port failure point
Thank you
Into the driver’s cabin.
Our PM is a feckless neoliberal stooge…Banker. He’s basically a northern Democrat…or a bit to the right.
He doesn’t seem feckless to me.
You kidding?
Buddy was elected to “save” us from Polieve’s conservatism and MAGA…and has been the single most destructive force to the fabric of Canada in modern history. He’s cutting deeper than any conservative could ever hope to, as is he privatizing and outsourcing profits.
Just because our (small L) liberals went back to sleep after they think they averted a disaster doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
The worst part is conservatives have no idea how good they have it and they’re treating him like he’s Chairman Mao. It’s Paul Martin all over again.
Lol no. Have you actually been following the policy, and what the Conservatives are suggesting instead?
He’s definitely moved things to the center (it was a change election, PP would have won otherwise), but on the US file he’s doing about as well as anyone could hope for, and hasn’t actually cut much - literally just civil servants. All the social programs are fine. Meanwhile PP’s life’s mission is to kill the CBC.
Most of the carbon tax is still there. There’s a new housing program. He just tricked Alberta into raising it’s carbon tax. And it goes on.
“Hasn’t cut much?” He’s cut everything. Of course the conservatives have been forced to promise deeper cuts than the Liberals because the Liberals occupied all their policy positions.
No, cancelling taxes, cutting government across the board, putting the private sector in charge of housing and privatizing pipelines isn’t “moving to the centre”.
Guessing you’re a Liberal…because you’re repeating their PR.
Literally, it’s just public servants. Read the damn budget - or a summary of the damn budget - if you actually care about the truth.
I could point out the gaps in the plan there are, to prove I’m not shilling, but I’m guessing you’d just see that grace as weakness. I have better things to do than that kind of exchange.
Ok bud you are dreaming…
He has given trump everything the idiot king wanted (short of the 51st State) and received nothing in return… and yes, he has cut the public service and services in general, deeper than Harper did and back then that was a disaster we have not fully recovered from
I’m fairly certain Trump has asked for many crazy things and not gotten them, because he’s Trump. It’s true there’s been no payoff, but PP couldn’t have done better.
Interesting. That might be true, given the circumstances right now, and the fact Carney didn’t touch anything else.
“Moved things to the center” is a subjective statement, but everyone can agree he has objectively moved things far to the right of where they had been.
Yes. Trudeau was tickling up against the NDP there, and probably had little problem passing their policies. Carney is a different beast. He’s passionate about the environment and wants the government in on homebuilding, but he’s also a techbro and seems to want trickledown-type policies regarding the rich.
The thing is, PP is so far off to the right there’s still a ton of headroom in between.
The conservatives are pissed of because he’s drinking their milkshake. The electorate moved rightward (Justin Trudeau fatigue) and he moved with them, elbowing the Conservative Party further to the right into unelectable fringe la la land.
The Liberal party has a history of making these rightward shifts. It’s why they’re called “Canada’s Natural Governing Party.” They have no real ideological base, they just see which way the wind is blowing and go that way.
I don’t agree at all that the electorate moved right. Elections are about voter suppression, voter activation, and holding your nose before you vote. This election happened to feature a giant swath of socialist voters abandoning the NDP for the LPC or being suppressed entirely: they didn’t “move right”, they were just swayed by the allure of strategic voting - or turned off entirely.
Then there’s other factors like the chunk of traditional non-voters who were activated by the pandemic…the poor right…maple MAGA. Then there’s the traditional conservative voters (a small group) that stayed home because Pollivre is a bridge too far. Then there’s the armchair liberals that got of their asses and voted for once. On and on. Mash all that together and you have like 70% of Canadians voting…very high, but not great in context. My point is that the same people don’t vote in every election.
I got downvoted to hell every time I pointed out he’s a globalist banker. I even had someone condescendly “explain” that he’s a central banker which is somehow better
Well, there is a large difference between running national economies and running actual banks.
…but what you said is an apt criticism because Carney is a Stephen Harper era conservative banker…and his interim job was working in the ultra capitalist banking system. His economic policy, very broadly speaking, is designed to promote the private banking system…rather than increase social health…like a Yanis Veroufakis type economist from the same era.
Why not include the company name?
We should be publicly shaming any companys supporting the facist regime nextdoor
Roshel (also known as Roshel Defence Solutions) is a Canadian defense manufacturer specializing in the design, integration, and production of combat-proven armored vehicles; Headquartered in Brampton, Ontario
Also yes the founder and owner is Israeli.
Of course he is.
It’s included as the third bullet point in the summary.
What does this mean?
It’s an old Norm Macdonald punchline from his time at SNL. Op’s joking that buying Canadian is good but ICE buying them is bad
Exactly! I thought of Norm when I wrote it, but forgot about it when I read this question. LOL What an amazing joke that was. 3 punchlines … “you never seen anything like it” LOL.
A thin silver lining is that Canada’s siphoning some of the hyperinflated budget that is meant for a whole fascist concentration camp regime. Now if only we could get the horn to play “chinga la migra” occasionally when pressed…
The song in question. Fuck ICE indeed.
there’s more than one song named that
Today I learned. Do you have links to the others?
well it’s a very old and widely used slogan, i’m sure there’s dozens (but maybe only one hit the charts).
this is the first song i thought of, from 2010: https://www.discogs.com/release/26307488-Dirty-Surgeon-Insurgency-Indecipherable-Amount-of-Tentacles
t-shirt examples:
it’s cool there’s a new song for sure, but it didn’t start there.
When I say I want zero trade with the US it includes ICE.
Though if these were subject to a safety recall I wouldn’t complain.
It’s a really small company. They can’t produce that many in 30 days unless they have a few sitting around already.
Canada should block the purchase on human rights grounds, regardless.
I was hoping workers would sabotage them.
Doesn’t have to be workers
👍
We’re not going to, the US has our economic balls in a vice.
There’s more chance of a court ruling it unlawful, but that takes time.
We’re not going to, because we don’t want to.
I have no indication that anyone left of Pierre Poilievre thinks what the Americans are doing right now is cool. Even PP might not actually, given his own record on immigration, although he’s glad to pander to the worst.
Think of the precedent. Think of all the shady shit we do all around the world and all the human rights violations that result. “We” (ie the state) absolutely don’t want to.
Hmm. I’m not into conspiracy theories, if that’s where this is going.
A day and half for 3-4 guys to fit an entire vehicle is nothing.
Yeah, hire twice as many people and you can do 7-8 people outfitting an entire vehicle in two days
Now WE have the kill switch on THEIR gear !
Oh no, how unexpected. Who would think that the interests of capital and imperialism would take precedent over the wellbeing of the people in Canada?
How does this affect the wellbeing of people in Canada (except to provide them with jobs?)
Don’t sell weapons to people that have threatened you is a generally good rule of thumb
Well, these are going to ICE. It’s not like the U.S. couldn’t get them elsewhere. And of course, now Canada knows the weakness of the units!
“They could get them elsewhere, so we might as well get a cut of our own occupation.”
I mean, if it’s jobs alone that is a consequence of this deal, I can guarantee you that those jobs are still maintained at exploitational wages. Since it is silly to only think about that, there is also the reality that Canada is subordinated to the US already and its fascist regime has made real threats of violence to Canada. On top of that, Canadians have been detained without cause by this same regime which has taken up disappearing dissidents as an official practice. ICE patrols the 100-mile border zone that Canadians cross every day for work and kinship.
Canon fodder indeed, chuds love having dudes like you around to fight for them.
I’m happy for Canadians to be even more dissuaded from going to the U.S.
This is the Canadian nationalist shit you see when someone has been protected their whole life. You know Americans know more about fighting the US than Canadians do, right? Borders are also, y’know, imaginary, and people formed connections across borders for generations despite you feeling yucky about the US now. How ’bout you offer to pay for the salaries of every Canadian who crosses the border for work or relocation costs for any families who live across border regions?
So if you’re so cozy with the U.S., why care about selling them some equipment?
Breaks your brain to think of the state seperately from people eh? Fuckin typical nationalist. Go lick boots elsewhere dude.
Nah, that was their choice to work in a foreign country, which only helps them and not their fellow country folk.
Just like the ones that went to work stateside when the US dollar was high in late 90s and early 2000s. Then when the dollar went down to par they all cried, “Oh poor me I’m losing my income and having to commute a lot and use too much gas”
There are consequences to actions.
Genuinely, go fuck yourself. Like you know a fucking thing about helping your ‘country folk’ when you’d literally let them get arrested for living in a place where cross-border work is normal. I’d rather be in a place where workers have solidarity with each other than where there’s some pompous and hollow notion of nationality.
Chud.
Sounds like the good people of Brampton should at the very least stage some protests.
Hey, fuck you Canada!
I’m a US citizen, and I’ve seen a lot of canadians complain about the US. But its my turn now. You are helping enable fascism. So fuck you.
That is all.
Agreed. I’m pretty embarassed to be Canadian at the moment.
Even a working clock is wrong twice a day.
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But you people said you didn’t need anything from us…
djt and maybe his crew said that, not me.
Last time I did research for my blog, there were three armoured vehicle manufacturers in the Toronto area, and highly respected by the world community. That information only surprised people living in Canada.
I hope Canada takes the money and tells ICE to fuck off. Or even better, deliver 20 Cozy Coupes painted the LGTBQ+ flag colors
That would be the hard part about working in anything geopolitically relevant. Your government will have to do realpolitik, and you can’t reasonably impose your own preferences over top of that and stay relevant, so you end up welding together anti-protester bumpers for the Saudis, or brown guy cages for the Americans. Hopefully all the sales to Ukraine make up for it.
We’ll take your money fascists, but I don’t like that we’re enabling ICE either.